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  Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

  by nmthinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

  during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

  i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

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  When I first left this crap religion, I started reading the bible on its own, from all kinds of translations and revisions.... and I was amazed at reading so many verses that I'd never read or heard about before. I started with the New Testament and couldn't believe how many verses there were that spoke about charity, and giving to others, and being kind and gracious and showing grace, and GIVING TO THE THE POOR and materially helping people.... I kept a list somewhere of all these verses, but it has now been years since I've even wanted to read a bible again, and the list is long gone.

  But I remember being amazed and dumbfounded at what it was like to read the bible without the WT lens, and to discover so many verses like this, that were never highlighted or given as examples for us to follow. They only select a few verses, repeated over and over and over and over, all which conform (or they make them conform!) to their agenda.
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  Song 146 - You did it for me

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower 1970 4/1 emphasis the principle that singing at the kingdom hall is part of worship to god and is one of the most beautiful ways they can show this worship to him.. of all the ways in which we can worship and praise jehovah god—by prayer, by public talks, by our field ministry and by our exemplary conduct—one of the most beautiful of them is this literal singing of songs to jehovah’s praise....and, above all, let us pay more than usual attention to the words.

  it is by the words that we worship jehovah god, bringing praise to him.

  as an introduction to song 146, jw org states -jesus considers any act of love and support for his anointed brothers as though it were done for him.

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  Muddy Waters

  Thank you for posting that, Wifi.....
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  Learn To Speak Like A Jehovah's Witness

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  for those who were never a jw, here's a fun guide to passing yourself as one:.

  privilege [priv-lij] - a duty nobody would volunteer to do which is assigned to you without your say so.

  such as cleaning the toilets, picking up other brats candy wrappers in the back row and being stuck on locking up duty for the 7th time in a row.. df'd [dee-eff'd] - disfellowshipped.

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  Muddy Waters

  Not sure how to fit a definition around this.... but the verse in Acts 10:34, 35 which says that "God is not partial, but in every* nation, the one* who fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him..."

  * every: only where there are Jehovah's Witnesses

  * one: meaning *only* Jehovah's Witnesses.
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  Learn To Speak Like A Jehovah's Witness

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  for those who were never a jw, here's a fun guide to passing yourself as one:.

  privilege [priv-lij] - a duty nobody would volunteer to do which is assigned to you without your say so.

  such as cleaning the toilets, picking up other brats candy wrappers in the back row and being stuck on locking up duty for the 7th time in a row.. df'd [dee-eff'd] - disfellowshipped.

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  WARM GREETING/WARM CHRISTIAN GREETING - This phrase lets the congregation know that they must applaud politely to either a visiting speaker, or a member who has travelled to another congregation and who is "bringing the love" home from that congregation. This latter action may have been done away with, probably because it made things much too happy and informal, but also had the sad effect of members not being able to publicly brag that they had faithfully attended other meetings while on holiday.
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  Learn To Speak Like A Jehovah's Witness

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  for those who were never a jw, here's a fun guide to passing yourself as one:.

  privilege [priv-lij] - a duty nobody would volunteer to do which is assigned to you without your say so.

  such as cleaning the toilets, picking up other brats candy wrappers in the back row and being stuck on locking up duty for the 7th time in a row.. df'd [dee-eff'd] - disfellowshipped.

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  BIBLE STUDY - more than one definition. It may describe the reading and repeating of paragraphs from a JW BOOK which is NOT the Bible. Also used to describe a PERSON who studies a JW book (NOT the Bible).
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  Learn To Speak Like A Jehovah's Witness

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  for those who were never a jw, here's a fun guide to passing yourself as one:.

  privilege [priv-lij] - a duty nobody would volunteer to do which is assigned to you without your say so.

  such as cleaning the toilets, picking up other brats candy wrappers in the back row and being stuck on locking up duty for the 7th time in a row.. df'd [dee-eff'd] - disfellowshipped.

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  KINGDOM MELODIES - (love the way some posters describe this as "Kingdom Maladies"!) -- a collection of dreadful, depressing, weirdly-paced, dreary songs, with weird chords and musical progressions that nobody has ever heard of before, sung self-consciously and sotto voice by a tone-deaf congregation.
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  Fudging The Numbers JW Style

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know most of us have probably figured this out already, but remember the good old days where you could only count full hours in the ministry?.

  then one of the gb get some "new light" from their ass and proclaim that they lovingly will allow people to report 30mins, then even 15mins of time.

  this was, supposedly, so that the old and infirm could have a joy in the ministry and report what little they could do.

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  Muddy Waters

  Yes, and isn't it amazing how *Jehovah* is the one who comes up with this wonderful privilege of counting time this way. (Despite the Bible verses which say not to keep a record of your deeds, but your father in heaven will see you in secret and bless you.... and that we should not let our right hand know what the left is doing, blah blah blah.)

  Jehovah and his GB minions certainly are amazing. With the one with whom there is "no variation of the turning of the shadow" or whatever, he certainly is flexible with things... thank goodness the GB know how to "hear" him and fine-tune these miraculous revelations.
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  So I just watched Jackson's ARC interview...

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  thank you, everybody here, for introducing me to this.

  no, no i had not heard of this.

  child abuse issues have been roundly dismissed as apostate attacks in the congregations i've attended in the last decade.

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  And look how Bowditch blusters and fluffs himself up, all full of himself, only to be torn down again, fallen, defeated, and finally admitting the true facts after Mr. Stewart's, calm, masterful and relentless expert questioning. (Mr.Stewart is my new hero, too!!!)

  Gawd, this ARC hearing should be a TV series!!! People would be aghast to think this is real testimony from members of a seemingly innocuous religion (Cult).
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  LEAKED Talk - Depression Is A Part Of This Life

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another leak from my collection of talks that i was ordered not to share.

  an elder gave me a ton of talks from bethel and special assembleys to put on his ipod.

  of course i copied them to my computer and will share them for all of us.. depression is a part of this life by brother nathan fuel.. this talk also touches on the subject of family members being disfellowshipped, feel depressed?

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  This talk was so over the top I couldn't help wondering if the speaker was "awake"... It seemed like satire to me! or am I finally seeing thru the double-talk....
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  Jehovah`s Witnesses Religion based on First Century Christianity ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who was the president of the first century christian congregation after jesus death , , the secretary ,the treasurer ,the field overseer ,the district overseer ,who were the lawyers protecting the congregations from secular authorities ,the mogul`s of real estate , buying up land and getting christians to build places of worship with free labor and then selling them off for a profit a few years down the track , with nothing going back to those who laboured on those projects .. where are the records on papyrus , that the 1st century witnesses counted their hours ,made return visits ,bible studies ,oops the bible wasnt even formulated then ,that didn`t occur until apostate christendom in the 3rd century came up with a number of books to be inspired ..

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  Muddy Waters

  Too true, all good points! Whenever I had thoughts like that, they would quickly be suppressed as Satanic thinking.... good grief....